8/2/2023 0 Comments Charlie vernon gems tv![]() He saw my Olds S-23 and wanted to try it. ![]() He told me that Carlie Vernon was a regular customer of his and that a few days prior Charlie was in the shop picking up some slides. ![]() As I was checking out with the tech’s front desk person, the tech came rushing out of his work shop all excited to tell me about my horn. I took it to a well-known Chicago Metro area brass tech to have all of the work done.Īfter the work was completed, I went to pick up the horn. I wanted to have it cleaned, the valves opened up and an extension to the E Rotor made to make it into an F-D dual dependent. Back in the day Olds sold an optional slide extension for the E rotor to convert it to a D but it was a special order so only a few were made. As a result many complained that the horn played a bit stuffy. The Olds valves on this horn are considered small by today’s standards. Several years ago I purchased on the cheap an Olds S-23 Bass F-E Dual dependent with 10” bell. I will put them up from time to time.very glad you like them and grateful that they are of benefit to you. ![]() Thanks for your kind words, Leo! The videos are just a side project I do when I have time (and am in shape) or we have something really meaty that I happen to get a good take for. You're one of the players (with Brian Hecht) that I try to emulate with my bass sound and technique (yes, I set my bar really, really high). It’s a pretty good bang for buck mod! I did get the impression you could go too far though, so I stopped at one inch.įorgive me for being off-topic, but I just wanted to thank Mike for his youtube posts. I had my tech cut off 1 inch from each of the 4 legs and I have to say it does make a difference! It opened up the blow and made the sound closer to that of the open horn. I recently read this thread and I decided to try shortening the inside tuning slide legs on my rotor section that I felt played a bit tight in the valve register. It was at that point that he asked us at Shires to build him a new custom valve section and sent us the bell so that it could be built to it. He had to go offstage to get it moving again. That valve section failed in the middle of a recital I was in the audience for at ETW. He had to go back to his previous valve section and have the flange moved back. I had a lesson with him at that time, and the low C would vibrate so much that he couldn't play it in tune. The reason they couldn't move the diamond flange is that that had been done once before when Charlie needed a new valve section, and it made the bell do very strange things. Charlie calls it a magic bell, and it's hard to argue. But it doesn't have the instability or nebulous pitch center that I often feel when equipment is that light the pitch center is very clear and easy to play in the center of. It's extremely lightweight overall, and so thin at the end that you can run your finger lightly along the inside of the bead and see the movement on the other side. I've never played another bass trombone bell like it. I had the opportunity to play Charlie's favorite NY Bach 50 bell quite a bit when we had it in the shop. Later on it became part of his signature model. George loved the quick response and broad sound, and asked for one for him to play as well. George happened to come by the factory when a valve section was completed for Charlie to try on a complete Shires bass trombone. The lightweight valve section is a feature of the George Curran model Shires as well. And the shape of the crook is probably different as well. We made a handslide for Charlie as well, but I think he prefers the Edwards because the tube walls are a bit thicker. First, the main bell brace had to be in a different place in order to avoid moving the diamond flange on his bell (more on that below), and second, he needed it to be as light in weight as possible, so it has no braces in the tuning slide loops, and the tuning slides themselves are shorter so there is much less overlapping tubing. The Shires axial set that I know of was built for him while I worked there.
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